Zašto je ilegalna!? — VUTRA Forum

DirtyDeeds · 2007-05-02T07:40:41+00:00

Ljudi se uglavnom koncentriraju na to zašto nebi postala legalna a ne zašto je uopce marihuana ilegalna.Nabrajaju se stotine razloga zašto treba postati legalna ali zašto je uopce postala ilegalna. Pozivamo se na znanost da bi smo ukazali na njenu bezazlenost,korisnost...Ali kad znanost dokazuje njenu stetnost to odbacujemo.Kad znanost tvrdi da je neka droga manje stetna onda se pozivamo na to kako je marihuana prirodna ili kako je ona ljek. Ljek..to sto je marihuana ljek nikako ne moze pomoci

psycho.ludjak

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maj 2007.

maj 2007.#2

ilegalna je jer duhanske tvrtke zele ostat milijarderi

Ras Tafari

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maj 2007.

maj 2007.#3

There are many types of people who oppose legalizing Marijuana for a variety of reasons. Many of these groups have some very strange reasons and selfish interests. Many are just ignorant of the facts. Here's some of the opposition: [*] [*]The Uninformed - People who believe the misinformation that Pot is harmful to society. [*]The Government - Pot has been illegal for so long that no politicians have the political courage to tell the truth about Pot. The ones that do tell the truth are defeated by their opponents that paint them as a druggie. Many of these anti-drug politicians are funded by the Alcohol lobby. [*]Religion - Anything fun is sin and of the Devil. Churches might lose members as people figure out that God can't be that stupid. [*]Moralizers - The morally superior who enjoy looking down their noses at the less fortunate and get a sadistic thrill in putting people in jail. [*]People who do no Drugs - These people who don't drink, don't smoke, in some cases don't even drink coffee. They just don't understand why anyone would want to smoke anything or do any drug. From their perspective the world would be better off if no one did anything. [*]The Alcohol Lobby - Legalizing Pot would seriously cut into the sales of Beer. Pot would become the recreational drug of choice because it is safer than Beer. [*]The Tobacco Lobby - Pot has the ability in some people to help them break the addiction of nicotine. Pot smoking could actually reduce the number of tobacco addicts.

[*]Law Enforcement - There are a lot of people who make a living fighting Pot who would have to go get a real job if Pot were legalized. Police departments get a lot of funding to fight Marijuana and those funds could be returned to the taxpayer if Pot were made legal. Cops would have to chase robbers, rapists, and murderers. [*]Government Agencies - Using unconstitutional civil forfeiture laws the government has been able to use the presence of Pot to steal billions of dollars of private property from the People. Drug laws have been an excuse to circumvent our constitutional right and justify wire tap laws, the erosion of protection from illegal searches, key recovery encryption, and domestic spying. If you take a politically unpopular position like this one I'm taking now, the government can plant drugs on you and put you away. [*]Pot Dealers - If Pot were legalized then people making money off of selling Pot illegally would be out of business. Pot prices would drop to $10 a bale. Crime relating to illegal Pot money would vanish. [*]Wood Industry - Hemp would become the primary source of fiber for paper products as well as a new source for building materials. We wouldn't have to cut down every big tree in the world. [*]Private Prisons - If Pot were legalized the private prison industry would be hurt. They would no longer jail Pot smokers. It could free up space for violent criminals. [*]Trial Lawyers - Normal people caught with a joint spend billions each year on lawyers to get them off of criminal charges after getting caught with a joint. Lawyers get rich off of the Marijuana laws. If Marijuana were legal this money could be spent sending your kids to college. [*]Mental Hospitals - There's a big industry treating people for problems they don't have. If you have insurance, you're crazy until the insurance coverage runs out. If you smoke Pot then you have mental problems. If Pot were legal some of these people would have to get real jobs. We should start treating people who are addicted to 12 step programs. [*]Republicans - Pot helps you see reality the way it really is. It's harder to con a Pot smoker on political issues. Once you get stoned it's harder to want to hate Liberals, Queers, Blacks, Pregnant Teens, Draft Dodgers, President Clinton, Feminists, Lesbians, Pot Smokers, and other people the Republicans want you to hate. When you're stoned it's harder to like Newt Gingrich, John Ashcroft, the KKK, the Christian Coalition, Jerry Falwell, Pat Buchanan, Reverend Sun Myung Moon, People who beat Gay's to Death, People who blow up Abortion Clinics, and the morally superior in general. [*]Political Cowards - Politicians like to pose with police as somebody who is "against drugs" promising to lock up all the pot smokers and throw away the key. These people need an artificial issue to be against so they don't have to face real issues like how to protect the public from crooked lawyers and crooked judges. Political cowards cross all party lines when it comes to pot and includes President Clinton. [*]Others - These groups could also be hurt by legalizing Pot. Car body shops would get less alcohol related wrecks to fix. Hospitals would get less alcohol related business as would alcohol treatment centers and funeral homes. It could hurt cemeteries and tombstone makers as well. http://www.perkel.com/

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maj 2007.

maj 2007.#4

ilegalna je zato što je na popisu psihotropnih tvari koje su zaknom zabranjene

psycho.ludjak

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maj 2007.

maj 2007.#5

lol dobra, :D

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maj 2007.

maj 2007.#6

Ja mislim da iza toga stoje smrdljivi nizozemci! Sve je to nizozemska urota da bi ostvarili monopol na turizam lakim drogama!!!! Ali ipak jos nisam paranoican do te mjere.... Mislim da je ilegalna jer ucinak utjece na pojedinca na nacin koji je drustvu neprihvatljiv. Smanjuje motivaciju za radom, vodi ka tezim drogama, strah od nepoznatog, nastojanje da se oponasaju razvijenije zemlje... e sad, sve sto sam naveo ne podrzavam ali mislim da je zbog toga. Smanjenje motivacije nije problem ako se tempira i ne pretjeruje, k tezim drogama vodi svaka droga... duhan samom idejom udisanja dima vodi marihuani... alkohol sa promijenama svijesti, necu u detalje, ali cinjenica je da sve ostaje na pojedincu kojeg je drustvo samo duzno osvjestiti o opasnostima droga. Strah od nepoznatog, PA UPOZNAJMO SE! U principu, nesmije se mjenjat stanje svijesti jer onda pojedinac postaje nepredvidiv, a to nesmijemo dopustiti! Jel? Osima ako je tu neka duhanska ili alkoholna kompanija da u pravo vrijeme u povijesti ulozi veto pravim ljudima zeljnih mita.

cannebosanac

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maj 2007.

maj 2007.#7

http://anonym.to/?http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7141569421209778634&hl=en Jedna od najjačih priča na temu zašto je ilegalan nalazi se u predstavi Mr.Nice(Howard Marks evening) na linku gore možeš naći , na kraju cjelog filma . Sve to što ste vi nabrojali i plus ostalo i na kraju Muamed el Guindi , pogledajte . opet ti sa sarkazmom

ROX

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maj 2007.

maj 2007.#8

Iz istog razloga zasto su i ostale sigurne a spoznajno vrijedne droge ilegalne. Utjecajna elita koja vlada zeli da su ljudi glupi i poslusni, a ne pametni i prosvjetljeni.

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maj 2007.

maj 2007.#9

Sto je nekom vrata raja je nekom stepenice za pakao, nemislis valjda da neki nevidljivi mocnici brane "spoznajno vrijedne droge" da bi ljudi ostali neprosvijecene ovce? Sto je tezi psihodelik to je sansa da spoznas nesto sto ce ti promjenit zivot veca... to stoji, ali to sto spoznas moze ti dati siru i bolju perspektivu na zivot. Isto tako mozes i prosvirat i pocet gledat na zivot puno mracnije i depresivnije. Tu kocku mnogi bacaju a da ni neznaju. I ko najebe, obicno se ne hvali okolo i ne pise knjige/radove koliko i ljudi koji nisu najebali vec se prosvijetili. Znam jako puno ljudi koji puse vutru i uzimaju etnogene droge, ali jako malo tih ljudi je poboljsalo svoj zivot time, neki su ostali na istom, neki su otisli u kitu... najmanje je dobilo krila. Dobijes puno puzzli s slikom svijeta, ali rijetko znas koji dio gdje ide...

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maj 2007.#10

Prohibicija LSD-a '66-te i ostalih psihodelika 71, oboje u cemu je Amerika prednacila i prosirila svojim utjecajem na druge zemlje i UN, ta prohibicija je nastala upravo zato jer su u 60-tima mladi masovno konzumirali psihodelike i travu u SAD-u, i udaljavali se i okretali od "Americkih" ideja. A pogodi sto, konzervativni ljudi na vrhu, kao sto sam rekao, zele da je narod glup i poslusan, jer time prati pravila koja omogucuju da oni na vrhu tamo i ostaju. Nixon je Learya proglasio najopasnijim covjekom u Americi. Sta mislis zasto? Sigurno nije bio opasnost po tudju sigurnost. Ne, bio je opasnost za stari poredak, jer je promovirao individualnost, vlastitu "religiju", vlastita moralna nacela, vlastite vrijednosti i vlastite ciljeve u zivotu, a ne one nametnute drustvom. A "drustvo" u zapadnom svijetu ne funkcionira bez pravila koja ogranicavaju toliko covjeku prirodnih aspekata i grade zidove oko nih, nepotrebno. Droge i umjetnost su u zapadnom svijetu bile, i jesu i danas, najveci faktor koji utjece na covjekovo propitivanje pravila koja, kad se malo udaljis i sagledas ih, nemaju smisla, koja su uvredljiva i neprirodna.

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maj 2007.

#11

maj 2007.#11

Gledao sam bas neki dokumentarac i za globalno zabranjvanje gandze je zasluzan neki zajebani Amer (ne secam se imena) na funkciji (mislim da je bio neki senator,pa kasnije i jos neka veca faca),jos 20-ih god. proslog veka. Covek je toliko mrzeo marihuanu,da je predstavljana kao extra opasna droga,plus i konzumiranti su predstavljani kao nasilnici,ubice,klosari...Tako je javnost od starta dobila negativnu sliku ni nemajuci pojma o cemu je rec. Posle toga je 40-ih taj isti lik,na nekom svetskom samitu predlozio da se zabrani i to je usvojeno od strane preko 120 zemalja... Koliko jedan KONJ moze da unazadi drustvo (kada bolje i razmislim i drago mi sto mu ime zaboravih)...