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<blockquote data-quote="zlavjestica" data-source="post: 223210" data-attributes="member: 28551"><p><strong>DJ Short on the Blue Family</strong>:</p><p></p><p>"The "Blue Family" of the herbal community originated from crosses of four varieties: Highland Thai, Chocolate Thai, Highland Oaxaca Gold, and Afghan Indica. All were pure P-1 contributing ancestors. Both Thai varieties and the Oaxaca were pure, land-race sativas.The seeds were gleaned from the connoisseur's choice herb of the late 1970s/early 1980s directly from their region of origin.The indica line came one generations removed from its region of origin in the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan via the growing community and network in Northern California and Southern Oregon.</p><p></p><p>The Highland Thai, also known as "Juicy Fruit Thai," produced a maze of many branches in a full, bushy tangle that was quite asymmetric, developing no easily identifiable main stem at</p><p>maturity. The Oaxaca Gold was crossed with the Chocolate Thai to produce a plant that became known as "Purple Thai." The Purple Thai had symmetric branching patterns and grew tall with</p><p>support. Both the Highland Thai and the Purple Thai were late bloomers, with finishing times that ranged between 10-16 weeks indoors or as late as mid-November outside, and sported at</p><p>least minimal hermaphroditism. They each also produced champion herb that had little or no "ceiling" to them; that is, the more one consumed, the higher the experience.</p><p></p><p>The Purple and Highland Thai became the two female contributors to the Blue Family Females were selected for overall quality of the finished product, including bouquet, flavor and buzz, as well as the lowest incidence of hermaphroditism. The Afghani Indica supplied the male P-1 pollen source. Selection among the Afghani plants was based on stout full structure and strong, musky, "skunkish" odor. The resulting cross grew very uniformly to a medium height producing long, spear-shaped buds. I referred to this fI simply as "the Cross." When two of</p><p>these "Cross" plants were bred together, the resulting f2 "DoubleCross" produced an extreme variation in phenotypic expression. It was from these varied Double Cross f2s that the Blue Family members were chosen and stabilized through several generations of selective breeding.</p><p></p><p>BOG Jeans</p><p></p><p>Back in about 1970 we were 16 and trying to grow bagseed outside with little success but we did have some plants and we did smoke some immature weed. I was married at 18 and by age 19 I had my own farm where I grew outdoors. I became successful to a point but genetics were not easily available and I had to do the best I had with what I had. You never really knew what you had but you thought it tasted like what might have been called this or that. </p><p></p><p>It wasnt at all scientific but i read hightimes and I learned about sinse early on so my plants were good pot if they would finish and I developed my own strains. Another friend of mine also had a fine strain we called Blanchard Weed and it rivaled my best now in heavy resins. I had created my own feminized line i called "RED" and it yielded more than his and tasted great but it wasnt as potent. Eventually I mixed his with mine and grew this cross, mine more sativaish and his was indica. Eventually the strain became hermaphroditic due to many generations of inbreeding.</p><p></p><p>I was online in early '99 and this is when I got access to Seedsdirect and Gypsy. He sent me many genetics and many growers at OG sent me seeds to work with. Getting lucky with a few good strains I made f2 seeds and selected clones. Years of selection led to a very fine bubblegum called Bogbubble and that was crossed later to a NL5 to make Bogglegum. When Lifesaver came out people saw that I was 3 for 3 and they couldn't understand how a small grower did it?</p><p></p><p>Gypsy still calls me the "Enigma" which means mystery and I prefer to maintain some of the mystery as part of my BOG myth. You know about me living in a cave and great grand daddy being an alien. I am not a myth however and those who have judged me by the fruits of my labors no longer question how I do my work. Now Sour Bubble is going to stun the breeding world. Just mark my words. </p><p></p><p>Thanks for bearing with me. BOG</p><p></p><p>Rezdog</p><p></p><p>I started growing in the late 80's,when I met a guy we'll call K,with a Phototron,a (Neville's) Seed Bank Catalog,and about fifteen sheets of very very good blotter.</p><p>K,who was to be my partner in many nefarious adventures over the next decade-plus,(until alcohol ruined his productivity) had a huge collection of High Times magazines which we read and re-read...and that's how it all started,</p><p>in the most general sense.</p><p>Soon the scenario was upgraded,to H.I.D. lighting,and I never looked back.</p><p>I shared knowledge with a lot of people about what I knew best,which was indica-doms in ebb/flo tables,and we spread a fair amount of Skunk1/Basic5 and Neville's Hash Plant around a certain demographic area to the tune of a million or so,(in 80s bucks),before it all caved in,somewhat due to folks getting sloppy,but mostly because of some nasty LEO ops that would actively HUNT growers,sorta' like Vancouver has,now.</p><p>When the SSSC and The Seed Bank closed shop back in the late 80's,I realised right at that point,way back then, that there was a huge IMPORTANCE in keeping the availability of great genetics of a plant that's illegal</p><p>around.</p><p>So,I selectively bred NL 5x2 f2s, Skunk1/B5 f2s,and some HP crosses, etc.</p><p>Sadly,those seeds were lost years ago,off to a landfill as a result of a huge ****up involving misidentification of property....but I bred my first seeds in 1989,if that dates me,a little.</p><p>I've taken years off from growing here and there,but I always kept coming back-it's always the Best when you do it,yourself,imHo.</p><p>Anyhow,you know what I've been up to for the past couple of years,so there's no need to elaborate about the Sour Diesel Projects or the William's Wonder Projects,let's just say I'm a busy entity who's totally absorbed by this work, we'll leave it at that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Cheers,All!</p><p></p><p>Rez</p><p></p><p></p><p>A.C.E is a group of breeders and lovers of Cannabis, dedicated to the preservaion and study of this wonderfull plant.</p><p></p><p>Our planet is undergoing a constant loss of its genetic diversity and Cannabis is no exception. It is the responsibillity of our species to save all these unique forms of life, maintain and preserve the biodiversity of the species.</p><p></p><p>A.C.E is a group of breeders and lovers of Cannabis, dedicated to the preservaion and study of this wonderfull plant. ]</p><p></p><p>Our planet is undergoing a constant loss of its genetic diversity and Cannabis is no exception. It is the responsibillity of our species to save all these unique forms of life, maintain and preserve the biodiversity.</p><p></p><p>The pure landrace varieties, which are the origin of all our domesticated varieties are a consequence of this amazing plants adaption to the echo systems of our planet.</p><p></p><p>These pure varieties are disapearing for many reasons, like the elimination of natural habitats, through war zones, lost ancesteral culures genetic contamination due to globalisation and mainly due to the false laws prohibiting research and utillisation of this wonderfull plant.</p><p></p><p>Although we already count medicenal uses for Cannabis in the hundreds we have still only barely scratched the surface of the potential of this plant and what it can offer to the world. At A.C.E we want to improve the lack of genetic diversity and to stop the depression of the species that Cannabis is suffering at the moment.</p><p></p><p>So A.C.E offer you pure genetics, fresh and new selected from the best of our extensive libary of C.Sativa strains collected from around the world and preserved in our collection.</p><p></p><p>We are proud to offer you the first 10 varieties of our first catalouge. From the the breeders of A.C.E and our private collections we are very sure you will enjoy these exceptional varieties.</p><p></p><p>All at A.C.E look forward to working with the UK growers to ensure your satisfaction and we look forward to seeing you around the forums and sharing with you.</p><p></p><p>Peace,</p><p>Dubi,</p><p>A.C.E. Breeders Association."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zlavjestica, post: 223210, member: 28551"] [B]DJ Short on the Blue Family[/B]: "The "Blue Family" of the herbal community originated from crosses of four varieties: Highland Thai, Chocolate Thai, Highland Oaxaca Gold, and Afghan Indica. All were pure P-1 contributing ancestors. Both Thai varieties and the Oaxaca were pure, land-race sativas.The seeds were gleaned from the connoisseur's choice herb of the late 1970s/early 1980s directly from their region of origin.The indica line came one generations removed from its region of origin in the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan via the growing community and network in Northern California and Southern Oregon. The Highland Thai, also known as "Juicy Fruit Thai," produced a maze of many branches in a full, bushy tangle that was quite asymmetric, developing no easily identifiable main stem at maturity. The Oaxaca Gold was crossed with the Chocolate Thai to produce a plant that became known as "Purple Thai." The Purple Thai had symmetric branching patterns and grew tall with support. Both the Highland Thai and the Purple Thai were late bloomers, with finishing times that ranged between 10-16 weeks indoors or as late as mid-November outside, and sported at least minimal hermaphroditism. They each also produced champion herb that had little or no "ceiling" to them; that is, the more one consumed, the higher the experience. The Purple and Highland Thai became the two female contributors to the Blue Family Females were selected for overall quality of the finished product, including bouquet, flavor and buzz, as well as the lowest incidence of hermaphroditism. The Afghani Indica supplied the male P-1 pollen source. Selection among the Afghani plants was based on stout full structure and strong, musky, "skunkish" odor. The resulting cross grew very uniformly to a medium height producing long, spear-shaped buds. I referred to this fI simply as "the Cross." When two of these "Cross" plants were bred together, the resulting f2 "DoubleCross" produced an extreme variation in phenotypic expression. It was from these varied Double Cross f2s that the Blue Family members were chosen and stabilized through several generations of selective breeding. BOG Jeans Back in about 1970 we were 16 and trying to grow bagseed outside with little success but we did have some plants and we did smoke some immature weed. I was married at 18 and by age 19 I had my own farm where I grew outdoors. I became successful to a point but genetics were not easily available and I had to do the best I had with what I had. You never really knew what you had but you thought it tasted like what might have been called this or that. It wasnt at all scientific but i read hightimes and I learned about sinse early on so my plants were good pot if they would finish and I developed my own strains. Another friend of mine also had a fine strain we called Blanchard Weed and it rivaled my best now in heavy resins. I had created my own feminized line i called "RED" and it yielded more than his and tasted great but it wasnt as potent. Eventually I mixed his with mine and grew this cross, mine more sativaish and his was indica. Eventually the strain became hermaphroditic due to many generations of inbreeding. I was online in early '99 and this is when I got access to Seedsdirect and Gypsy. He sent me many genetics and many growers at OG sent me seeds to work with. Getting lucky with a few good strains I made f2 seeds and selected clones. Years of selection led to a very fine bubblegum called Bogbubble and that was crossed later to a NL5 to make Bogglegum. When Lifesaver came out people saw that I was 3 for 3 and they couldn't understand how a small grower did it? Gypsy still calls me the "Enigma" which means mystery and I prefer to maintain some of the mystery as part of my BOG myth. You know about me living in a cave and great grand daddy being an alien. I am not a myth however and those who have judged me by the fruits of my labors no longer question how I do my work. Now Sour Bubble is going to stun the breeding world. Just mark my words. Thanks for bearing with me. BOG Rezdog I started growing in the late 80's,when I met a guy we'll call K,with a Phototron,a (Neville's) Seed Bank Catalog,and about fifteen sheets of very very good blotter. K,who was to be my partner in many nefarious adventures over the next decade-plus,(until alcohol ruined his productivity) had a huge collection of High Times magazines which we read and re-read...and that's how it all started, in the most general sense. Soon the scenario was upgraded,to H.I.D. lighting,and I never looked back. I shared knowledge with a lot of people about what I knew best,which was indica-doms in ebb/flo tables,and we spread a fair amount of Skunk1/Basic5 and Neville's Hash Plant around a certain demographic area to the tune of a million or so,(in 80s bucks),before it all caved in,somewhat due to folks getting sloppy,but mostly because of some nasty LEO ops that would actively HUNT growers,sorta' like Vancouver has,now. When the SSSC and The Seed Bank closed shop back in the late 80's,I realised right at that point,way back then, that there was a huge IMPORTANCE in keeping the availability of great genetics of a plant that's illegal around. So,I selectively bred NL 5x2 f2s, Skunk1/B5 f2s,and some HP crosses, etc. Sadly,those seeds were lost years ago,off to a landfill as a result of a huge ****up involving misidentification of property....but I bred my first seeds in 1989,if that dates me,a little. I've taken years off from growing here and there,but I always kept coming back-it's always the Best when you do it,yourself,imHo. Anyhow,you know what I've been up to for the past couple of years,so there's no need to elaborate about the Sour Diesel Projects or the William's Wonder Projects,let's just say I'm a busy entity who's totally absorbed by this work, we'll leave it at that. Cheers,All! Rez A.C.E is a group of breeders and lovers of Cannabis, dedicated to the preservaion and study of this wonderfull plant. Our planet is undergoing a constant loss of its genetic diversity and Cannabis is no exception. It is the responsibillity of our species to save all these unique forms of life, maintain and preserve the biodiversity of the species. A.C.E is a group of breeders and lovers of Cannabis, dedicated to the preservaion and study of this wonderfull plant. ] Our planet is undergoing a constant loss of its genetic diversity and Cannabis is no exception. It is the responsibillity of our species to save all these unique forms of life, maintain and preserve the biodiversity. The pure landrace varieties, which are the origin of all our domesticated varieties are a consequence of this amazing plants adaption to the echo systems of our planet. These pure varieties are disapearing for many reasons, like the elimination of natural habitats, through war zones, lost ancesteral culures genetic contamination due to globalisation and mainly due to the false laws prohibiting research and utillisation of this wonderfull plant. Although we already count medicenal uses for Cannabis in the hundreds we have still only barely scratched the surface of the potential of this plant and what it can offer to the world. At A.C.E we want to improve the lack of genetic diversity and to stop the depression of the species that Cannabis is suffering at the moment. So A.C.E offer you pure genetics, fresh and new selected from the best of our extensive libary of C.Sativa strains collected from around the world and preserved in our collection. We are proud to offer you the first 10 varieties of our first catalouge. From the the breeders of A.C.E and our private collections we are very sure you will enjoy these exceptional varieties. All at A.C.E look forward to working with the UK growers to ensure your satisfaction and we look forward to seeing you around the forums and sharing with you. Peace, Dubi, A.C.E. Breeders Association." [/QUOTE]
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